Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/03/2005 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                           March 3, 2005                                                                                      
                             9:04 a.m.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  convened the meeting  at approximately 9:04:26  AM.                                                          
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyda Green, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Gary Wilken, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Con Bunde, Vice-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending:   KAREN REHFELD, Deputy Commissioner,  Department of                                                          
Education and  Early Development; TIM GRUSSENDORF,  Staff to Senator                                                            
Hoffman;  EDDY  JEANS,   Manager,  School  Finance  and   Facilities                                                            
Section,  Education Support  Services, Department  of Education  and                                                            
Early Development;                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Attending  via  Teleconference:     There  were  no  teleconference                                                           
participants.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB  98-SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS: FAST TRACK                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The  Committee heard  from  the Department  of Education  and  Early                                                            
Development.  A committee  substitute was  adopted, four  amendments                                                            
were  considered  with  two  adopted. The  bill  was  reported  from                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 98                                                                                                         
     "An   Act   making    supplemental   appropriations,    capital                                                            
     appropriations,  other  appropriations,  and reappropriations;                                                             
     amending  appropriations; making  appropriations to  capitalize                                                            
     funds; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the fifth  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green moved for  adoption of CS  SB 98, 24-GS1133\Y,  as a                                                            
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Without objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  outlined  changes  in  this committee   substitute                                                            
compared to the previous committee substitute, Version "F".                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:06:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 1(b)                                                                                                              
     Request Delivery Unit (RDU): Department of Administration,                                                                 
     Capital                                                                                                                    
     Supplemental Need: State of Alaska Network Security                                                                        
     Infrastructure Updates                                                                                                     
     $5,003,500 Information Services Fund                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  remarked  that  it appears  the  State  must  take                                                            
additional  precautions to  protect against  hacking into the  State                                                            
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:07:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 1(c)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Department of Administration, Capital                                                                                 
     Supplemental Need: Alaska Land Mobile Radio (ALMR) for                                                                     
     Infrastructure Upgrades                                                                                                    
     $6,000,000 general funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken noted that  the federal government has increased its                                                            
activities  with anticipation  of certain factors,  one of  which is                                                            
Northern Edge, in August  2005. This has provided enough information                                                            
to upgrade  existing sites and begin  installment of new  sites. The                                                            
initial  request  was  $6.175  million;  this committee   substitute                                                            
appropriates  $6 million with the  remaining $175,000 allocated  for                                                            
the e-commerce project of the Department of Corrections.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:07:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 3(b)                                                                                                              
      RDU: Department of Corrections, Administrative Services                                                                   
     Supplemental  Need: The department is seeking  an e-procurement                                                            
     application    to  lower   purchasing    prices   and   improve                                                            
     efficiencies   within  the  buying  process  for  commodities,                                                             
     equipment, food and services                                                                                               
     $190,000 general funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  informed this restores  $190,000 to the  e-commerce                                                            
project. The Department  also has lapse funds available,  to allow a                                                            
total of $200,000 for this purpose.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:08:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 6(a)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Fund Capitalization, Marine Hwy Stabilization                                                                         
     Supplemental Need: Fuel cost and contract increases                                                                        
     $10,004,200 general funds                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken noted the  original request was for funds to address                                                            
fuel cost increases. This  committee substitute added funds to cover                                                            
increased  costs  associated  with  the contract  reached  with  the                                                            
Inland Boatmen's' Union.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:09:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 6(b)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Fund Capitalization, Disaster Relief Fund                                                                             
     Supplemental Need: Base capitalization of fund %500,000; 2004                                                              
     Bering Strait Sea Storm $4,054,400; Interior Earthquake                                                                    
     shortfall $259,300; and Kaktovik Winter Storm $2,363,500.                                                                  
     $7,177,200 general funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken reminded  that  the previous  committee  substitute                                                            
proposed not funding this  item; however the Department demonstrated                                                            
a need. The committee substitute  restores a portion of the original                                                            
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:09:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 6(c)                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken explained  this would capitalize  the fund  for the                                                            
network security project outlined in Section 1(b).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:10:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 8(b)                                                                                                              
     RDU: Governor, Elections                                                                                                   
     Supplemental  Need: Additional  increased  operating costs  for                                                            
     Accu-Vote  maintenance; lease cost increases;  list maintenance                                                            
     costs;  additional postage  and shipping,  printing,  training,                                                            
     archiving and destruction costs.                                                                                           
     $160,000 general funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   stated  this  appropriation  is  for   unexpected                                                            
expenses resulting from the latest general election.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:10:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 13(d)                                                                                                             
     RDU: Salary & Benefits Adj., Executive Branch                                                                              
     Supplemental Need: FY 05 costs for the IBU collective                                                                      
     bargaining agreement.                                                                                                      
     $3,190,900 AMHS Fund                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken explained  this item, along  with Section  6(a), is                                                            
also  in  relation   to  the  Inland   Boatmen's  Union   collective                                                            
bargaining agreement.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:11:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 15(a)(3)                                                                                                          
     RDU: Transportation, Capital                                                                                               
     Supplemental Need: Cold Bay: Airport Terminal Master Plan -                                                                
     funding is now expected to be available in April                                                                           
     $200,000 federal funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 15(a)(4)                                                                                                          
     RDU: Transportation, Capital                                                                                               
     Supplemental Need: Deadhorse: Airport Runway Safety Area                                                                   
     Expansion - FAA is providing discretionary funds to expand the                                                             
     safety area                                                                                                                
     $8,000,000 federal funds                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section: 15(a)(5)                                                                                                          
     RDU: Transportation, Capital                                                                                               
     Supplemental Need: Unalaska: Airport Terminal Master Plan and                                                              
     Improvements - FAA is providing the FFY05 earmark funds in                                                                 
     April                                                                                                                      
     $500,000 federal funds                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  reminded that these  relate to requests  brought by                                                            
the   Administration   at   the   previous   hearing   and   provide                                                            
authorization  for  three  projects at  a  total $8.7  million.  The                                                            
projects are ready to proceed.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:11:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Section 17                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  pointed out  this  contains  traditional  language                                                            
utilized  to authorize  receipt  of  funds from  the Constitutional                                                             
Budget  Reserve  (CBR)  fund if  necessary  for  this appropriation                                                             
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:12:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  #1: This amendment  adds a new  subsection to Section  4.                                                            
Department of  Education and Early Development., on  page 7, line 18                                                            
to read as follows.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          (c) The sum of $400,000 is appropriated from the general                                                              
     fund to the Department  of Education and Early Development, Mt.                                                            
     Edgecumbe boarding  school, for increased residential operating                                                            
     costs for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2005.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman moved for adoption.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected for discussion.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman  read the  language of the  amendment. He  explained                                                            
the issue  relating  to the  Murkowski Administration's   proceeding                                                            
with  the  expansion  of  the  school,  although   funding  was  not                                                            
authorized  for this  purposed  by the  legislature.  The school  is                                                            
subsequently   "caught"   between   the   Administration   and   the                                                            
legislature.  This amendment represents  one-half of the  originally                                                            
requested supplemental  appropriation amount. The  legislature could                                                            
then address  in the FY  06 operating budget,  the broader  issue of                                                            
retaining budgetary oversight over the executive branch.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  recalled  that the  legislature  was  clear in  its                                                            
direction last  year. Questions had been raised about  the readiness                                                            
of this  project with regard  to student  accommodations. She  asked                                                            
how the legislature  is to be assured that this project  is ready to                                                            
proceed  and  requested   the  school  administration   apprise  the                                                            
Committee of the project  goals and status. She did not support this                                                            
appropriation;  however, Senator Stedman made a compelling  argument                                                            
and she would not oppose the adoption of the amendment.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  cited Committee minutes  from the hearing  of April                                                            
28, 2004, in  which the Committee  denied this funding request.  The                                                            
issue is  not the Mt. Edgecumbe  project,  but rather the  budgetary                                                            
process and interaction  between the legislative branch  and another                                                            
branch of State  government. He understood this conflict  has caused                                                            
difficulty for the school.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  noted that the school  has operated for  many years                                                            
with little legislative  intervention. Recently, federal funding has                                                            
become   available  for   expansion  projects,   necessitating   the                                                            
legislature to become more  apprised. He requested the Department of                                                            
Education and  Early Development give a presentation  of the history                                                            
and future goals of the school.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  withdrew  his objection  to  the adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson asked  Senator  Stedman  opportunity  to secure  this                                                            
funding if the Committee did not adopt this amendment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  noted  the Governor's  proposed  FY  06  operating                                                            
budget includes $1 million  for the school. Co-Chair Wilken surmised                                                            
the  request  could be  made  to the  House  of  Representatives  to                                                            
include funding in the  FY 05 supplemental appropriation. He did not                                                            
favor expending $800,000  general funds for the expansion project in                                                            
FY 05.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  informed that the  school district in her  community                                                            
has increased by 300 students  since October 2004. The Mt. Edgecumbe                                                            
school is  requesting additional  funding for  60 new students.  She                                                            
questioned  the  disparity  and  asserted  the  funding  formula  is                                                            
flawed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  withdrew  her  objection  to the  adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  commented he has  received pressure regarding  this                                                            
matter from both  those supporting a supplemental  appropriation and                                                            
those opposing  it. Therefore, it is important that  the legislature                                                            
become more knowledgeable about the boarding school program.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  remarked that  the decision  rendered in the  lawsuit                                                            
filed by Molly  Hootch was to result in the elimination  of boarding                                                            
school institutions. He  echoed Senator Stedman's concerns voiced at                                                            
previous  hearings   about  the  difficulty  in  containing   budget                                                            
expenditures   given   the  multiple   supplemental   appropriation                                                             
requests.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  REHFELD, Deputy  Commissioner,  Department  of Education  and                                                            
Early  Development,   testified  this   funding  is  requested   for                                                            
inclusion  in  the  fast  track  supplemental   reason  because  the                                                            
Administration  admitted the  additional students  and the  housing,                                                            
staffing  and other  costs  have been  incurred.  The Department  is                                                            
unable to cover these costs.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde asked  if the Murkowski  Administration  and the  Mt.                                                            
Edgecumbe  school   administration  unaware  that  the  legislature                                                             
refused to fund this project in the initial FY 05 budget.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld   relayed  that  upon   adjournment  of  the   previous                                                            
legislative  session  and it  was understood  that  the legislature                                                             
would not fund this project  the Governor gave a directive to enroll                                                            
the additional students.  The Department followed the directive. The                                                            
dispute  was the legislature's  intent  that the  project should  be                                                            
delayed one year, while  the Governor insisted the project should be                                                            
done during the current year.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  suggested funding  this item  from the Office  of the                                                            
Governor budget.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Bunde  remarked   this   situation  could   establish   an                                                            
"interesting  precedence"  allowing  the  administration  to  expend                                                            
funds  for  a  project  and  thus  obligating   the  legislature  to                                                            
appropriate those funds.  He asserted he did not accept the adoption                                                            
of this amendment as setting precedence.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  favored  this amendment.  He  agreed  the  situation                                                            
involves two issues, the  school and a conflict between two branches                                                            
of government.  The governor is active year round  and therefore has                                                            
a better understanding of the issues.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson spoke to  the benefits of the boarding school program,                                                            
including   the  high  scores  its   students  score  on   the  exit                                                            
examinations.  He  expounded  upon  his experiences  at  a  boarding                                                            
school  and  noted  the accomplishments   of graduates  of  the  Mt.                                                            
Edgecumbe  school. He  cautioned against  causing  struggle for  the                                                            
students in an attempt to influence the Governor.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  calculated   the  per student   allotment  for  Mt.                                                            
Edgecumbe  students at  $5,120. She  suggested that  if this  amount                                                            
were allocated for students  in her district their test scores would                                                            
be higher as well.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There was no further objection and the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Amendment  #2: This amendment  adds a new  subsection to Section  4.                                                            
Department of  Education and Early Development., on  page 7, line 18                                                            
to read as follows.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          (c) The sum of $800,000 is appropriated from the general                                                              
     fund to the Department  of Education and Early Development, Mt.                                                            
     Edgecumbe boarding  school, for increased residential operating                                                            
     costs for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2005.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson announced this amendment would be NOT OFFERED.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:27:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #3: This amendment  inserts a new subsection to Section 2.                                                            
Department  of Commerce,  Community  and Economic  Development.,  on                                                            
page 6, following line 19 to read as follows.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          (f) Section 62(f), ch. 159, SLA 2004, is amended to read:                                                             
                (f) Subject to (a) of this section, the sum of                                                                  
     $1,560,000  is  appropriated  from  the  general  fund  to  the                                                            
     Department of Commerce,  Community and Economic Development for                                                            
     payment  as  a grant  under  AS 37.05.315  to  Dillingham  City                                                            
     Schools  for expenses incurred  on or after April 1,  2004, for                                                            
     middle  school   roof  replacement  and  high  school   design,                                                            
     engineering, and roof and structural repairs.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
This amendment  also provides that the appropriation  is retroactive                                                            
to April 1, 2004.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green objected.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson outlined  accompanying  explanatory  language,  which                                                            
reads as follows.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This  request  on  behalf  of the  City  of  Dillingham  School                                                            
     District  is to allow  the District  to be reimbursed  expenses                                                            
     incurred on a school  project prior to July 1, 2004. Due to the                                                            
     emergency  nature the District  spent funds on design  prior to                                                            
     July  2004 to  ensure the  project would  be done  in time  for                                                            
     opening day of school.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     This language  would cover expenses incurred  on or after April                                                            
     1, 2004 for this specific appropriation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  clarified this issue relates to a  timing change in                                                            
the funding.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  if this  relates  to replacement  of the  gym                                                            
floor.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TIM  GRUSSENDORF,  Staff  to Senator  Hoffman,  described  the  mold                                                            
problems in the gym at the high school.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green asked if the mold was contained in the floor.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf  replied that  the mold was  actually in the  walls,                                                            
but  subsequent damage  caused  the floor  to become  unusable.  The                                                            
original appropriation  was intended for replacement  of the ceiling                                                            
in the district's  middle school;  however, if the mold in  the high                                                            
school were  not immediately addressed,  the high school  would have                                                            
to have been closed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green heard  reports that  the removed  wood from the  gym                                                            
floor was transferred  to the local dumpsite where  it was recovered                                                            
by residents  and reused  in their homes.  Given that the  materials                                                            
were still  usable, she surmised this  project should have  received                                                            
additional scrutiny.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Grussendorf  responded  that  the  wood  had  buckled  and  was                                                            
unusable  as a  floor. He  could not  speak to  its suitability  for                                                            
other uses.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  understood  that  the  damage was  limited  to  one                                                            
portion of the  gym floor and that the entire floor  did not require                                                            
replacement.  She stated that residents  recovered the wood,  sanded                                                            
and  refinished  it  and  built good  floors  in  their  homes.  She                                                            
reiterated that  some projects should receive more  diligent review.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  removed  her  objection  to  the  adoption  of  the                                                            
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked why  this funding is necessary in the fast track                                                            
supplemental appropriation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Grussendorf replied that the funds have been expended.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman  asked if  a  maintenance  fund exists  to  address                                                            
temporary repairs, or if  the problems are allowed to worsen until a                                                            
total rebuild is necessary.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS,  Manager,   School  Finance  and  Facilities   Section,                                                            
Education  Support  Services,  Department  of  Education  and  Early                                                            
Development,  testified  he  was not  aware  that Dillingham  has  a                                                            
supplemental fund  source for these issues. He detailed  the capital                                                            
project  process  involving  submittal of  proposals,  approval  and                                                            
prioritization,  and eventual appropriation of funding  for specific                                                            
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Stedman   suggested  the  Committee  review   and  consider                                                            
existing and  possible mechanisms  for addressing necessary  repairs                                                            
to avoid major renovations.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken agreed and  requested the  Department address  this                                                            
matter at a future hearing.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Without further objection the amendment was ADOPTED.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:34:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #4: This amendment  inserts a new subsection to Section 2.                                                            
Department  of Commerce,  Community  and Economic  Development.,  on                                                            
page 6, following line 15 to read as follows.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     (f)  The sum  of $1,000,000  is appropriated  from the  general                                                            
     fund  to the  Department of  Commerce, Community  and  Economic                                                            
     Development,  Alaska  Energy  Authority,  for  the  power  cost                                                            
     equalization program  for the fiscal year ending June 30, 2005.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson moved for adoption.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken objected.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson outlined  the accompanying explanatory language, which                                                            
reads as follows.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     In recent  years, the Power Cost  Equalization Program  has not                                                            
     been fully  funded so that subsidies  to electricity  consumers                                                            
     in high  cost communities  have necessarily  been pro  rated in                                                            
     order to meet the appropriated funding level.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     In FY  04, the pro ration averaged  82% for the year,  with the                                                            
     latter months April and May at 75% and June at 63%.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     For FY 05, increase[d]  fuel costs have significantly increased                                                            
     the  cost of  electrical generation  in  these areas  resulting                                                            
     [in] further  pro ration to the  consumers. Currently,  the pro                                                            
     ration  is at 65% and  is expected to  erode further for  these                                                            
     last 4 months.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     From  conversation with  AEA, they  estimate that supplemental                                                             
     funding of $1 million  would bring the program pro ration up to                                                            
     76% for this year, if it is provided in a timely manner.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green asked  if  different funding  sources,  such as  the                                                            
federal National  Petroleum Reserve-Alaska (NPR-A)  funds, have been                                                            
considered  as a  funding  option for  the Power  Cost Equalization                                                             
(PCE) program.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  responded that NPR-A  funds have been considered  for                                                            
this  program,  as the  purpose  of those  funds  is to  offset  the                                                            
impacts of  resource development within  the Reserve. However,  this                                                            
suggestion has not been favored.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken remarked  that he does not support the $6.45 million                                                            
appropriated  to the  PCE program.  He  has attempted  to provide  a                                                            
method  for  small  communities  to repay  debt  incurred  for  fuel                                                            
expenses.  He stressed  that this  appropriation  however,  "totally                                                            
ignores" the impact  on those residents paying a 10  percent premium                                                            
on all items transported north from Anchorage.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken pointed  out that PCE members consumed three percent                                                            
more  electricity  and  four percent  more  fuel.  The appropriated                                                             
contained  in  the  committee  substitute  is  "very  generous"  and                                                            
additional  funding  would  be  "unacceptable".  He  maintained  his                                                            
objection to the adoption of this amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  countered  that  the  referenced  $6.5  million  was                                                            
intended for  something other than  PCE. He disputed the  12 percent                                                            
increase figure of energy in rural Alaska.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken reiterated  that all goods delivered to the Interior                                                            
region incur  a 10 percent surcharge  compared to the 12-20  percent                                                            
increase that is limited to energy expenses.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator Olson                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED:  Senator Bunde,  Senator Dyson,  Senator Stedman,  Co-Chair                                                            
Wilken and Co-Chair Green                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT: Senator Hoffman                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The motion FAILED (1-5-1)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The amendment FAILED to be adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:41:19 AM / 9:44:23 AM                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  expressed  disappointment   that  this supplemental                                                             
appropriation  relays the message that prevention  and foresight are                                                            
not a priority.  He specified the absence of funding  for the breast                                                            
and cervical  cancer screening program.  He stressed for  the record                                                            
that he  supports this  program and  spoke of  the impacts of  these                                                            
cancers  on members  of the  Committee  as well  as Iditarod  musher                                                            
Deedee Jonrowe.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green  offered a motion to report CS SB 98,  24-GS1133\Y as                                                            
amended, from Committee with individual recommendations.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  thanked staff for  assistance on this legislation.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There was no objection and CS SB 98 (FIN) MOVED from Committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken adjourned the meeting at 09:47 AM                                                                               

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